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Aaron Hauptmann's avatar

I've read Yudkowsky for almost 20 years and the author for 10, and this framing of the book is (so far) the one I would prefer to share with friends who would find straight Yud offputting. I find its being paywalled very frustrating. I suppose it's on me to spring for gift subscriptions once my free five run out, but "can I have your email to sign you up for a Substack" is still a bigger friction than sharing a link, and here of all places I would strongly prefer that friction removed.

EDIT: And the review is now free! Thank you Kelsey, Jerusalem, and whoever else makes that call!

Sam Tobin-Hochstadt's avatar

I find the arguments about our superiority to other things that are less intelligent than us to be extremely flawed, because they're extremely specific in ways that don't generalize. Yudkowsky is fond of talking about horses, where it's definitely true that the population of horses is mostly under human control. But other organisms are not like that at all, despite being much dumber. Consider Anopheles Gambiae, the mosquito that carries malaria. Humans strongly dislike this organism and it would be entirely to our benefit if it went extinct. But we're nowhere close to making that happen and certainly it would not happen without us taking extremely drastic and specific actions. The same goes true for many other species, ranging from rats to pigeons to poison ivy. The human species is currently intentionally sabotaging our own war against some of our most deadly does, in the form of viruses

Similarly for the point about parents and children. I am much smarter than my 5 year old, and she's not able to trick me. But she's much smarter than our cats and the same is not true. Terrance Tao is much smarter than almost every other human but this relationship doesn't reappear there. Again, the relationship is very specific and bounded and there's no reason to think that humans vs ASIs will be like parents and toddlers instead of toddlers and cats or between different adults, at least not reasons that are provided in any of these arguments.

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