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Simon's avatar

Kudos for tracking down the original study. In my opinion, it should not be acceptable for a Union of Scientists to write "studies have shown ..." without any references to those publications. This is especially the case when journalists are expected to report on those claims.

Michael Ball's avatar

Those same arguments against Waymo’s (or any AVs) also ignore the benefits that Waymo’s provide for women and people with disabilities.

As someone who doesn’t (can’t drive), the best thing for me is more availability and cheaper access to all forms of transportation. AVs have long been a dream for many and whether or not a privately owned ride share company is the exact vision of the future, it is a clear step towards progress. Of course, yes, I want fast and reliable and affordable public transit. But I also want my own autonomy—one that necessarily doesn’t rely on as many humans to get me to where I want or need to go.

And of course, almost universally the women I know in San Francisco describe the feelings of safety and freedom in Waymo’s. Of course the vast majority of Uber drivers are fine. But we cannot deny that the chance of a very terrible encounter, albeit “small”, has a very meaningful impact on the freedom (or lack thereof) that women and other marginalized people experience with platforms like Uber. Waymo’s are a way to reclaim that freedom.

And I will further add as a pedestrian with low vision but one who still appreciates cars—6 Waymo’s in a row on your street can be frustrating and just look silly. But at the end of the day, I trust and have experienced that they are more likely to stop for me than many of the human drivers in the city we share. 🤷 forgive me for welcoming this change.

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