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Allan SB's avatar

As a dedicated STOE guy, I know that true monocausality is unlikely, and therefore I appreciate this effort to complicate the most blunt version of the STOE. One point missing from this piece, however, is the concept of network effects and society-wide displacement, as opposed to individual use. We can run a study on what happens when a bunch of individuals turn off Facebook for a couple months, but those individuals still live in a community dominated by Facebook. We can't run a study to see what happens when an entire community shuts off Facebook for a few months or years. For example, the concept of displacement is prominent in this piece, but only analyzed on a personal level, as a personal tradeoff between phone time versus socializing, sleeping, and so forth. That analysis overlooks how displacement is equally important at the community level. It's plausible that the rise of the smartphone in tandem with social media killed local newspapers. Today, if you pay someone to log off Facebook for a few months, they end up less informed, not just because they've lost access to information but because Facebook has destroyed all alternative community-level infrastructure for staying informed. So yes, we can't blame every bad thing in life on "the phones," but I'm still comfortable concluding that "the phones" are unambiguously bad for us, on net.

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“The strongest, most reliable finding from years of randomized social media research is not that Facebook makes you crazy; it’s that, for better or worse, Facebook is how you find out what’s going on in the world.”

Gulp. I’ve never used Facebook. I’ve only been reading The New York Times, The Washington Post (but no longer), The Atlantic, BBC News, Reason, and several Substacks, along with watching TV newscasts and discussion programs. Is there a more real world that’s accessible only through Facebook?

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