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Marcus Seldon's avatar

While I like your ideas, they don’t address the elephant in the room: illegal immigration. When I talk to normies who don’t follow politics closely, even those who vote for Democrats, I find many of them are bothered by the high levels of illegal immigrants in the country, by sanctuary cities, and by Democrats’ perceived (or actual) lack of interest in immigration enforcement. To them, it feels inherently disorderly and unfair.

So I do think a return to Obama’s first term policies and PR on the issue makes sense politically, and is probably necessary.

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Patrick Spence's avatar

I'm in strong agreement. I think the issue here is that we need to moderate on process (ironic for the Abundance movement), not volume. We can be pro-mass-immigration but anti-illegal-immigration. Can we be processing asylum claims at embassies and consulates, then giving people the right to buy a plane ticket to the US rather than physically crossing the Southern Border? Can we just--generally--make it easier to get a work visa, then come to the US with one and start a W2 job immediately? What, precisely, would we have to do to get illegal crossings of the Southern border down to 0, while issuing 2M+ visas per year? Is this politically tenable?

More generally--and I posted this on Slow Boring yesterday--if the culturally blue collar won't tolerate high levels of legal immigration, can we actually go all-in on the so-called Sunbelt Strategy that seems to have fallen out of favor vis-a-vis winning back the Blue Wall? If maintaining high levels of (ideally legal) immigration is an economic imperative--and I think it is--what else can you compromise on to get to 50% of the electorate. How do you make local Chambers of Commerce the bedrock of the Democratic base? How do you win the white, male, over 50, college educated vote that is presumably fine with immigration in suburban Houston, Dallas, Phoenix, Charlotte, Salt Lake City, Miami, Tampa, and Atlanta by DC/SF margins?

Can we build an economically moderate, pro-immigration, pro-free trade party with a path to victory through some combo of AZ/UT/TX/NC/GA/FL? What would we have to change about our economic policy to make that a winning coalition? What would it take to win Miami-Dade by 40, Frisco, TX by 30, and flip Forsyth County, GA blue? Could this free us from dependance on MI/WI/PA?

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