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blake harper's avatar

Discussing right of center post-liberal economics without discussing American Compass is a little weird? Like, no one is out here claiming that Deneen's the go-to-source for post-liberal economics. Not that interesting to dunk on his views there, he's just such an easy target that this ends up feeling like a puff piece.

A more interesting article from an historian like Phil would have been to start with Gary Gerstle's framing that we're coming out of the neoliberal political order and ask what that means for left of center economic policy. For example, should liberal democrats continue supporting tariffs on China, or strict I9 enforcement and mandatory e-verify? If not, why not? Can liberals come up with a "worker-centered" economic, trade, and immigration policy that isn't just rehashed neoliberalism? The Abundance Agenda, for all it's virtues, is definitely not a self-consciously worker-centered program. They'd happily accept cheap labor and material imports from China and Latin America if it meant we could get more high speed rail, houses, solar energy, cheap medical assistants, etc. Americans might want those things, but the upper quintile is the only group that wants them more than they want to protect blue collar jobs.

If we look back in party history to the 80's and early 90's, the group that Henry Tonks calls the "new liberals" were actually explicitly interested in doing protectionist, state-sponsored industrial policy in order to compete with Japan. When Japan's economy crashed, this interest dried up and they resumed status quo governance. But here we are 30 years later post-realignment and the right has taken over both that platform, and its constituents.

We liberal democrats need a better response to the right-of-center post-liberal's arguments, but I'm sorry, this uncharitable dunking just ain't it. Phil's three paragraphs characterizing the post-liberal argument are accurate enough, but he doesn't really engage with the argument on its own terms. It's a good piece, but we need to keep exploring this line more rigorously and charitably. The story is too interesting and influential to treat this dismissively — that'll only backfire.

Greg S's avatar

Great piece but I think it fails to take seriously sources of real, cross-ideological dissatisfaction with modern life. In my view, much of this dissatisfaction comes from the incredible proliferation of addictive technologies/opportunities in America, which are not unrelated to liberalism and capitalism. If retreating from liberalism isn’t the answer (and I agree it’s not) then what can political leaders offer?

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