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Marcus Seldon's avatar

It's tricky to balance acknowledging that differences in ability are real and not having that recognition turn into bigotry or antidemocratic attitudes. I agree the Bay Area went too far in the direction of fearing exclusion or inequality, but the opposite failure mode is also a live threat and historically has been very real. On the fringe you get people who want to have tests for voting or even want to dispense with democracy entirely. But a more mainstream version is simply a culture among elites that ignores or dismisses the views and experiences of ordinary people. One recent example is Jasmine Sun's reporting about how the concerns rural people have about data centers are much more nuanced and reasonable than the stereotypes of anti-data center activists by Silicon Valley elites.

Part of the equal worth and rights that the Declaration talks about is equal voice, especially in the political system. I'm not saying you don't agree with that, but rather that people have a reasonable worry that their ability to speak and have input will be stripped from them if our worldviews focus too much on differences in ability.

Joseph's avatar

“I’ve marveled for a while at the divergence between how AI is regarded in academia (where it’s broadly loathed) and in the tech industry, where most people are largely cheerful about it. This is surprising because many jobs that techies love (writing code) are being replaced by much worse jobs (telling AI agents what code to write).”

Perhaps you’re surprised because you’ve mistaken a personal anecdote for a general trend. I’ve been a software engineer for 15 years, and AI has been one of the most controversial changes I’ve seen. Go scroll through the comments on Hacker News.

AI has taken a job I loved and made it mind-numbingly boring. Hating it is pointless. The universe doesn’t owe me an interesting job. Mostly I’m worried that my job will be completely automated away before I can retire. But cheerful? Yeah, not so much.

That doesn’t mean you should generalize from my experience either. Maybe there’s statistical evidence that backs up your claim, but show your work beyond “I know some guys and they totally love AI.” Those guys certainly exist. They also tend to be people who think they’re going to get filthy rich and don’t particularly care about software engineering or AI’s negative externalities.

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