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I was hopeful for the headline, but then the actual post meandered around different ideas. Phoebe Bridgers runs the venue and has the power to throw people out if they don't obey. That's not a social rule, that's just a rule enforced by real consequences. It doesn't tell people it is unacceptable to film concerts, it tells them that it is a specific rule at a Bridgers concert that you can't do that.

On the other hand if you tell someone to turn off a television program in a diner and they ignore you, then you can't kick them out. Only the diner owner can do that. Or for airline queuing, I've seen the "everyone clumps up and comes in at once", but I've also seen "the airline tells everyone to line up according to a specific order and boards them in that exact order". The airline has the full power to do that if they want. Shanghai Disneyland had to shove everyone in a single person wide funnel so it's impossible to line jump... but they could do that and did.

And here's something really interesting. I noticed something new on the comment box for this post, something I've never seen before. It's a dropdown called "The Argument reply rules".

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So people behaving rudely will be kicked out of the venue, even if they paid to attend. Sounds an awful lot like a Bridgers concert!

Is the real lesson here not that random bystanders should be more aggressive in staging social inteventions, but that venue owners and managers should be more aggressive in enforcing actual rules to make life easier for all the regular users?

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